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Patrick Rich

Agree on just about every point, Don, except the motivation behind VC interest. That is, and always has been, a statistically-based return on investment over time formula. Open Source today is an attractive investment because:

1. The general stock-buying public and institutions don't understands what it means, and related business models are still in the experimental stage.
2. Investment costs per company will tend to be lower.
3. Time to market will tend to be less.
4. It has buzz value.

These all eventually translate into the proverbial bubble (bubble size TBD) when hoards of Open Source labeled VC portfolio companies and attendant hype hit the stock market, spike, and then decline into oblivion.

Keep up the good fight. Too bad your opinions will likely be discounted because of the association with Big Bad Microsoft. As a confirmed capitalist, I admire the achievements.

Dan

"The high cost of support for desktop end users would blow the Open Source business model out of the water."

I get support from, for instance, www.Mepis.com for 10 dollars up front purchase. I usually get most of my support for all applications directly from the OS website (and their package download managers) which I think is amazing.
You might be referring to the "Power Tool" users who require something more sophisticated that OpenSource might not currently support. The current logic is that OpenSource is not equipped to handle enterprise solutions yet (Example: Mozilla Thunderbird) so this might be a contributor to the stall at the moment on the desktop.
Then the Closed to OpenSource crossovers can get expensive etc. so to me it can become an issue of 'all or none.'
Currently, www.Blender.org is on the right track especially for cross compatibility in complicated high end graphics environments because of less contract issues getting in the way on that level. Less code and easier plugin support for instance (terrain generator) I think it's pretty decent already and some OpenSource graphics apps (engines) www.ogre3d.org are working on plugins for a world editor built in to Blender.
Fun stuff.

I've also heard stuff about desktops and the Internet and one or the other as better. I think that we'll always need an OS on a portable device because you still have to download.

Susan Wu

You speak of Apache as if Apache is only one product =). In fact, there are numerous Apache projects, over 30+ at the top level alone.

I posted a response to Martin's article as well, to the gist of:

Simply speaking, any discussion around a bubble in valuation revolves around any outsized expectations that an open source business model will deliver greater profitability and greater resource allocation efficiency than a traditional model. The ‘hype’ is related to how large investors believe these potential gains to be and how quickly these gains can be realized. Just as companies in the late ’90’s realized that they could immediately increase their valuation multiples by appending their name with a ‘.com,’ chances are the words ‘open source’ also signal some expectation around potential profitability and growth.

However, just because a company employs open source in their business model doesn’t immediately lead to the conclusion that this company will be able to generate abnormal earnings (a higher Return on Equity than their cost of equity capital.) Valuation is simply an exercise in discounting the future expected cash flows the firm is expected to generate. ‘Open source’ can affect valuation in that the expected cash flows may be of a different composition and the perceived riskiness of these cash flows may differ than that of a traditional software model.

full post here:
http://feather.planetapache.org/?p=21

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