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Entries of Confusion

Great post, Don. I suspect that too many startups, and hence VCs, are relying on advertising as some kind of magic bullet.

Also, the "Web 2.0 = web app + 2 founders + 0 revenue" equation is fantastic, and so true in many cases ;-)

TechDumpster (living in First Life)

Don - I appreciate the post. These are some smart comments. I find Web 2.0 sites useful but advertising is only the right model when you have a few things:

1) Tremendous scale
2) No to low willingness to pay
3) The usage of your product is not going to make or break someone's career

Godie

Go mobile! People subscribe to ridiculous plans nowadays and don't get any aside from messaging. Where's the content? Ringtones, wallpapers, etc.. is all but fads.

Anthony Kuhn

Don:

Enjoyed your new Web 2.0 math equation! I think the folks over at Skype might understand a little bit about the downside of not having something concrete to offer users besides a service based on an infrastructure completely out of its control. I'm not against Web 2.0 businesses, I just think a little common sense would go a long way towards helping startups realize that things can go awry in a hurry when the Internet goes down, if that's what your service or product relies on for success. I cross-posted your piece at http://www.innovators-network.org which is a non-profit dedicated to small business, venture capitalists, IP specialists, and entrepreneurs with a focus on using technology. Visit us and help grow our community.

Best wishes,

Anthony Kuhn
Innovators Network

Andreas

Burn rate was popular word in the late 90's. The word might not be that popular today, but having a high one seems to be.

The majority can't rely on VC money being easy to get for years. There needs to be more balance between money coming in and money going out.

Andreas
Multigames.com

Will

Don,
Great post, very insightful. Looking at it from your perspective, it makes sense why VCs want to back ad based businesses. The only problem is that the pie is only so big and can only be sliced so many ways, that eventually (by that I mean sooner than later), there will be nothing left.
I think web 2.0 companies that rely on additional revenue streams are the better companies to invest in. Just my 2 cents.

Will

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